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June 18, 2012

section V notes

Filed under: AR footnotes — Charles @ 6:11 pm

From the AR post, Section V.
1…Changed circumstances have allowed the ACC to once again move in a more ecumenical direction,
“First, quite a bit goes on behind the scenes.  Diplomacy is often a quiet thing.  So, do not assume that contacts are limited to what you hear about.  The ACC is small and comparatively poor.  We only have so much time and energy and money for ecumenical work.  I have sent observers to FACA meetings, I have met with Bishop Sutton myself, I have attended FIF(NA) meetings, and I have issued and accepted a number of other invitations to bishops with whom the ACC is not in full communion.  My friend and former liturgics instructor, Bishop Ackerman, has been invited to ACC synods since the 1990s (and has never come).  The ACC has in fact, I think, been rather open to cordial contacts and fairly active in establishing them or in keeping them going….The ACC is what it is.  We are not going to alter the things you don’t care for in our C&C or in the Affirmation.  However, we can be in full communion with those who are not persuaded, as we are, that our position is wise.  We have not made any demands of anyone in regards to references to the Articles, e.g., in their formularies.”

Evidently the ACC is willing to exchange observers and even speakers with ACNA and FACA affiliated churches.  However, the ACC has yet to acknowlege secondary relations that are graded below “full communion” status. Again, not every “communion agreement” need be a “full” kind where jurisdictions canonically merge. Intermediate communions might exist that establish closer relations such as recognizing one another’s territories or maintaining letters of transfer, etc..

Walter Spaulding believes the ACC has remained surprisingly consistent with its shunning, saying, ‘The original, direct descendants of the 1978 Chambers Denver consecration, the ACC, APCK, and UECNA, are today in communion with each other and nobody else on the basis of no relationship to the regular Anglican Communion or any group in communion with it. This was made clear in ACC Archbishop Mark Haverland’s letter of July 3, 2007. But it came as little surprise as, among other things, the ACC’s College of Bishops had issued a statement more than a decade earlier that referred to the APCK and UECNA, and no others, as “related jurisdictions.” This automatically excluded the ACA and ACCC, which as members of the Traditional Anglican Communion were in communion with FIF-NA, the bulk of whose members were at the time in communion with Canterbury. Almost immediately, the new APCK Archbishop, James Provence, echoed Haverland’s 2007 remarks (This same month, July, the UECNA was noted as having rescinded its concordat with the APA and signed one with the ACC). Provence’s reaction also might have been influenced by the removal of an obviously pro-ACA faction from the APCK in the defection of the Florenza group, also in July 2007.”

Therefore, as late as 2007 the ACC was apparently acting upon the principles of the Athens statement. Further public address by Haverland where the policy of non-involvement is applied can be read here. Perhaps the removal of certain Bishops like Florenza and Falk from the ACA into the Ordinariate has permitted the ACC to soften its position? Last Nov. 2011 Haverland said, “The Athens Statement would not be written as itformer  was if it were to be written now”.

In 2012, ACC sent an observer to FACA, but it remains to be seen if the ACC can engage more proactive or constructive partnerships. An email from the UECNA, dated Feb. 11 2012, said, “The three groups that came out of St Louis have different emphases, but you could see APCK and UECNA as the Anglo-Catholic and Broad Church manifestations of the ‘Continuing’ side of the St Louis Movement, whereas the ACC was less definite in terms of churchmanship, but had a more rigid Canon Law driven, Catholic ideology.  This difference between the three groups still occasionally throws up problems, with the ACC having periodic tantrums about APCK and UECNA accepting non-St Louis succession clergy. … the ACC seems to have difficulty conceiving of a relationship between friendly acquaintence and full merger.”

2. Willful vs. Mistaken sin is an odd dichotomy but I’ve found a couple proofs from a Wesleyan viewpoint.  Not surprisingly, what is Wesleyan is also typically evangelical. Earle Fox also gives an argument for sin measured by knowledge when he says, ‘The first and primitive level of true, significant unity is between persons who strive to be a truth-seekers and truth-speakers — at any cost to themselves…They are able to say, “If I am wrong, I want to know.” They are correctable, willing to base discussion on the evidence as nearly as that is possible — accurate observation of the facts and careful reasoning from facts to conclusions. It is a commitment to “science” in its broadest and most comprehensive sense — the systematic search for truth.’ (Levels of Unity)

3. An interview with Paul Zahl said of the DEPO process, “The system that they proposed is so complex and so process-heavy, that people like me lose heart very quickly, especially in times of pressure or stress.”

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